Comments on: AutoCAD 2009 – Tooltips are bad for my sanity http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/16/autocad-2009-tooltips-are-bad-for-my-sanity/ A strange mix of AutoCAD, music, image manipulation and video Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:18:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: William http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/16/autocad-2009-tooltips-are-bad-for-my-sanity/#comment-3723 William Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:44:41 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=82#comment-3723 The worst thing is that basically all the tooltips are on, or off...there is zero middle ground. I don't mind tooltips to an extent because as you said, they help figuring out all the stupid GUI changes for 2009. But why oh why didn't they include an option for an appearance delay? Sure, they included one for extended tooltips, fine...but one for regular tooltips that is user-adjustable would make my work much more sane. Now, I have to turn them on and off and on and off if I forget which buttons do which (the ones much less used). BUT...if I could set a hover delay of say, 5 seconds, that would insure that I don't accidentally see any tooltip I don't want to see and, as Doug mentioned above, any tooltip you want to see would definitely be intentional. One of the more annoying oversights in a program famous for high user customization. The worst thing is that basically all the tooltips are on, or off…there is zero middle ground. I don’t mind tooltips to an extent because as you said, they help figuring out all the stupid GUI changes for 2009.

But why oh why didn’t they include an option for an appearance delay? Sure, they included one for extended tooltips, fine…but one for regular tooltips that is user-adjustable would make my work much more sane. Now, I have to turn them on and off and on and off if I forget which buttons do which (the ones much less used). BUT…if I could set a hover delay of say, 5 seconds, that would insure that I don’t accidentally see any tooltip I don’t want to see and, as Doug mentioned above, any tooltip you want to see would definitely be intentional.

One of the more annoying oversights in a program famous for high user customization.

]]> By: Doug http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/16/autocad-2009-tooltips-are-bad-for-my-sanity/#comment-3188 Doug Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:03:32 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=82#comment-3188 My suggestion (in addition to the others here) is to add a hover delay variable) That way after you become somewhat familiar with the icons, you can set the delay to say three or four seconds. That way, you are intentional about the tool tip appearing. Another option is to allow just the command name to appear in the Status Bar at the bottom of the screen similar to when you hover over a pull-down menu item. My suggestion (in addition to the others here) is to add a hover delay variable) That way after you become somewhat familiar with the icons, you can set the delay to say three or four seconds. That way, you are intentional about the tool tip appearing. Another option is to allow just the command name to appear in the Status Bar at the bottom of the screen similar to when you hover over a pull-down menu item.

]]> By: PJ Lightning http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/16/autocad-2009-tooltips-are-bad-for-my-sanity/#comment-268 PJ Lightning Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:01:07 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=82#comment-268 I totally agree. What is the point of a huge box that obscures everything. OK It's useful to have something that gives a hint about the button, while you are learning. But eventually you KNOW what the bloody buttons sre and just need a small reminder for the ones you don't use so often. I put a post in the C3d wish list for them to make tooltips a right click function. Then the info is there when you want it but not when you don't I totally agree. What is the point of a huge box that obscures everything. OK It’s useful to have something that gives a hint about the button, while you are learning. But eventually you KNOW what the bloody buttons sre and just need a small reminder for the ones you don’t use so often. I put a post in the C3d wish list for them to make tooltips a right click function. Then the info is there when you want it but not when you don’t

]]> By: trebormoslrac http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/16/autocad-2009-tooltips-are-bad-for-my-sanity/#comment-259 trebormoslrac Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:33:07 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=82#comment-259 Short and sweet: Tooltips = real PITA Short and sweet: Tooltips = real PITA

]]> By: vmoreland http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/16/autocad-2009-tooltips-are-bad-for-my-sanity/#comment-254 vmoreland Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:19:57 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=82#comment-254 I ranted about this on Autocad discussion groups. I was assured there that Autodesk don't really give a rat's ass what old users think....and the speculation was that maybe Autodesk was doing this kind of stuff on purpose to drive people to using model based products. Well....I don't really believe it, but if it is true, I won't be driven to Inventor because if they will will "dis" old time Autocad users, they will most certainly do the same to Inventor users. Meanwhile....I am going to go back to 2008 since 2009 is driving me nuts. The hope is that a service pack comes out that adresses this problem as well as others....like...."find" which zooms to the target, and upon closing the dialog box, zooms back out so that you don't have any idea of where the "find" was within the drawing. I ranted about this on Autocad discussion groups. I was assured there that Autodesk don’t really give a rat’s ass what old users think….and the speculation was that maybe Autodesk was doing this kind of stuff on purpose to drive people to using model based products.

Well….I don’t really believe it, but if it is true, I won’t be driven to Inventor because if they will will “dis” old time Autocad users, they will most certainly do the same to Inventor users.

Meanwhile….I am going to go back to 2008 since 2009 is driving me nuts. The hope is that a service pack comes out that adresses this problem as well as others….like….”find” which zooms to the target, and upon closing the dialog box, zooms back out so that you don’t have any idea of where the “find” was within the drawing.

]]> By: ralphg http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/16/autocad-2009-tooltips-are-bad-for-my-sanity/#comment-234 ralphg Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:21:03 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=82#comment-234 Related to this is the removal of the Description field at the bottom of some palettes and dialog boxes. The area is still there, but blank -- making the dialog box larger than necessary. Related to this is the removal of the Description field at the bottom of some palettes and dialog boxes. The area is still there, but blank — making the dialog box larger than necessary.

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