Comments on: Where have all the developers gone? http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/29/where-have-all-the-developers-gone/ Mostly AutoCAD discussion, but also music, image manipulation and video Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:13:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: terry priest http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/29/where-have-all-the-developers-gone/#comment-381 terry priest Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:08:53 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=97#comment-381 steve may be old news, but related, i think autodesk is making it harder and harder to install autocad groups, when users can change anything, but only thru the autocad interface, and they dont have to know any programming, in fact, they dont even know what file they are changing, or where its located, sheesh, how are you supposed to create a low maintenance group of 50 or so users, how many ways can people get themselves into trouble and go their own way. how do developers deal with that? i think autodesk is creating a market for an easier to manage workgroup version. it would probably solve the problem of locating user customizable files, like your main menu, in hidden variable named locations. steve

may be old news, but related, i think autodesk is making it harder and harder to install autocad groups, when users can change anything, but only thru the autocad interface, and they dont have to know any programming, in fact, they dont even know what file they are changing, or where its located, sheesh, how are you supposed to create a low maintenance group of 50 or so users, how many ways can people get themselves into trouble and go their own way. how do developers deal with that? i think autodesk is creating a market for an easier to manage workgroup version. it would probably solve the problem of locating user customizable files, like your main menu, in hidden variable named locations.

]]> By: Dietmar Rudolph http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/29/where-have-all-the-developers-gone/#comment-299 Dietmar Rudolph Tue, 13 May 2008 17:52:57 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=97#comment-299 Jimmy, regarding "to make sure it works with 2009 even though it probably does". I do not think I'm breaking my NDA in telling that I got a call last week from the Autodesk office responsible for my listings on their web site. They offered to update my listings if I don't have the time to do so, so your observation can be correct. In my case the reply however was that all of the applications listed are build using VisualLISP and therefore compatible with 2009 unless Autodesk breaks something - which I do not intend to test unless Autodesk or a client pays me for this. Jimmy, regarding “to make sure it works with 2009 even though it probably does”.
I do not think I’m breaking my NDA in telling that I got a call last week from the Autodesk office responsible for my listings on their web site. They offered to update my listings if I don’t have the time to do so, so your observation can be correct.
In my case the reply however was that all of the applications listed are build using VisualLISP and therefore compatible with 2009 unless Autodesk breaks something – which I do not intend to test unless Autodesk or a client pays me for this.

]]> By: Jimmy Bergmark http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/29/where-have-all-the-developers-gone/#comment-274 Jimmy Bergmark Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:28:14 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=97#comment-274 Right on there. No time to test thoroughly enough either for Autodesk or for the beta testers. Often it's the latest beta version that is tested but then it's too late to make any larger changes before RTM. I guess many of the developers don't have had the time to fill out the details needed to have them listed on Autodesk's site not to make sure it works with 2009 even though it probably does. Right on there. No time to test thoroughly enough either for Autodesk or for the beta testers. Often it’s the latest beta version that is tested but then it’s too late to make any larger changes before RTM.

I guess many of the developers don’t have had the time to fill out the details needed to have them listed on Autodesk’s site not to make sure it works with 2009 even though it probably does.

]]> By: Deelip Menezes http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/04/29/where-have-all-the-developers-gone/#comment-270 Deelip Menezes Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:28:59 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=97#comment-270 Well, we fall in the category of the other 3400 developers. At SYCODE, we are still struggling to release SolidWorks 2008 ready add-ins, and SolidWorks 2009 is supposed to just around the corner. We are almost done and will get to supporting AutoCAD 2009 thereafter. Another thing, plug-ins for AutoCAD 2007 and 2008 should be compatible with AutoCAD 2009. Note that I used the word "should". This annual subscription model, although very profitable for CAD vendors, only adds to a lot of headache for everyone, including the CAD vendors and specially third party developers like us. One year is just too less time to fix bugs in previous versions and develop new features to justify the subscription fee. My guess is that the testing of these new features gets the least time which only adds to the bugs in the new version and the problem then compounds year after year. Well, we fall in the category of the other 3400 developers. At SYCODE, we are still struggling to release SolidWorks 2008 ready add-ins, and SolidWorks 2009 is supposed to just around the corner. We are almost done and will get to supporting AutoCAD 2009 thereafter.

Another thing, plug-ins for AutoCAD 2007 and 2008 should be compatible with AutoCAD 2009. Note that I used the word “should”.

This annual subscription model, although very profitable for CAD vendors, only adds to a lot of headache for everyone, including the CAD vendors and specially third party developers like us. One year is just too less time to fix bugs in previous versions and develop new features to justify the subscription fee.

My guess is that the testing of these new features gets the least time which only adds to the bugs in the new version and the problem then compounds year after year.

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