Comments on: Autodesk messes up Raster Design 2010 licensing http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/ Mostly AutoCAD discussion, but also music, image manipulation and video Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:13:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rob http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-4047 Rob Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:00:04 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-4047 This is what happens when you have a monopoly. The Feds really need to break autodesk up. This is what happens when you have a monopoly. The Feds really need to break autodesk up.

]]> By: Rick Chappell http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-3787 Rick Chappell Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:10:25 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-3787 FYI, I wanted to make sure you guys have seen the hotfix for Raster Design to allow the mixed network/standalone usage: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=13435443&linkID=9240978 FYI, I wanted to make sure you guys have seen the hotfix for Raster Design to allow the mixed network/standalone usage:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=13435443&linkID=9240978

]]> By: Brian Thomas http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-3583 Brian Thomas Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:46:03 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-3583 Steve, I am the one who posted the original thread on the discussion group. You did a great job on your article. It explains the new rules and scenarios in a way anyone could understand, except for gregg L, sounds like he didn't understand your post. I don't know if my company is in the majority or minority. We have 9 users who use AutoCAD 8 hours a day so we have 9 stand alone licenses of AutoCAD. We all don't use Raster Design so we have 4 network seats. Still waiting to hear from our reseller as to what the next course of action is. I'm going to attach the readme file that came with my raster design to my post on the discussion group. If you don't have your DVD of Raster yet, I was able to download raster since we're on subscription. Steve,

I am the one who posted the original thread on the discussion group. You did a great job on your article. It explains the new rules and scenarios in a way anyone could understand, except for gregg L, sounds like he didn’t understand your post. I don’t know if my company is in the majority or minority. We have 9 users who use AutoCAD 8 hours a day so we have 9 stand alone licenses of AutoCAD. We all don’t use Raster Design so we have 4 network seats. Still waiting to hear from our reseller as to what the next course of action is. I’m going to attach the readme file that came with my raster design to my post on the discussion group. If you don’t have your DVD of Raster yet, I was able to download raster since we’re on subscription.

]]> By: Steve Johnson http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-3582 Steve Johnson Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:57:26 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-3582 Gregg, who do you represent? Autodesk? A reseller? I'll deal with the bulk of your comments one by one, but first I'd like to know who I'm dealing with. Gregg, who do you represent? Autodesk? A reseller? I’ll deal with the bulk of your comments one by one, but first I’d like to know who I’m dealing with.

]]> By: Gregg L. http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-3581 Gregg L. Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:51:53 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-3581 Clarifications, corrections, and/or suggestions: 1) The only new requirement is that the licensing method has to be the same, not the count. You can have 500 AutoCAD and 3 Raster Design licenses. 2) Since network licenses can be 'borrowed' or 'checked out', there is no need to have separate standalone and network licenses. 3) While network licenses do cost more than standalone, the key is that you never convert them in a 1 to 1 manner. Typically, the initial conversion is about 70-80% of the number of standalone licenses. Most customers save more than 20% annually when switching to network licenses when they have any appreciable number of standalone licenses. 4) By moving Raster Design to a network license engine, the job of the CAD manager is actually simplified for many reasons and will allow the CAD manager to actually monitor usage and reduce costs. This can't be done with standalone or mixed license models. 5) Autodesk can provide assistance with the conversion of large numbers of standalone licenses to network licenses. Therefore, a customer does not necessarily have to re-install. Additionally, the included distribution mechanism can make the install as simple as a double-click with no user interaction at all, or the re-install can be done with a distribution system such as SCCM. Clarifications, corrections, and/or suggestions:

1) The only new requirement is that the licensing method has to be the same, not the count. You can have 500 AutoCAD and 3 Raster Design licenses.

2) Since network licenses can be ‘borrowed’ or ‘checked out’, there is no need to have separate standalone and network licenses.

3) While network licenses do cost more than standalone, the key is that you never convert them in a 1 to 1 manner. Typically, the initial conversion is about 70-80% of the number of standalone licenses. Most customers save more than 20% annually when switching to network licenses when they have any appreciable number of standalone licenses.

4) By moving Raster Design to a network license engine, the job of the CAD manager is actually simplified for many reasons and will allow the CAD manager to actually monitor usage and reduce costs. This can’t be done with standalone or mixed license models.

5) Autodesk can provide assistance with the conversion of large numbers of standalone licenses to network licenses. Therefore, a customer does not necessarily have to re-install. Additionally, the included distribution mechanism can make the install as simple as a double-click with no user interaction at all, or the re-install can be done with a distribution system such as SCCM.

]]> By: E. Winter http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-3580 E. Winter Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:31:07 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-3580 Well what's the reason that Autodesk do this? I can imagine that they want tot have a straightforward product line. Like they have now. I even think ARD will eventually only be available with Autocad. And not be sold seperately anymore. Just as other products like C3D, Map3D. Well what’s the reason that Autodesk do this?
I can imagine that they want tot have a straightforward product line. Like they have now.
I even think ARD will eventually only be available with Autocad. And not be sold seperately anymore. Just as other products like C3D, Map3D.

]]> By: R.K. McSwain http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-3578 R.K. McSwain Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:32:12 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-3578 Well, we have not received our C3D or our ARD yet, so I'll keep watching and listening until I can try myself. Thanks for bringing this up. Well, we have not received our C3D or our ARD yet, so I’ll keep watching and listening until I can try myself. Thanks for bringing this up.

]]> By: Steve Johnson http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-3577 Steve Johnson Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:42:28 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-3577 No, I haven't asked Shaan, stuff like this isn't really his area. I don't have my own copy to confirm yet, but that thread quotes the Raster Design documentation, people are reporting confirming it with their resellers and it seems to be legitimate. There's a question now about whether this applies to <em>all</em> 2010 products. If so, that's a disaster of the first order. No, I haven’t asked Shaan, stuff like this isn’t really his area. I don’t have my own copy to confirm yet, but that thread quotes the Raster Design documentation, people are reporting confirming it with their resellers and it seems to be legitimate. There’s a question now about whether this applies to all 2010 products. If so, that’s a disaster of the first order.

]]> By: R.K. McSwain http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-3575 R.K. McSwain Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:10:29 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-3575 There is just no way this was a conscience decision. This HAS to be a mistake, right? I mean it makes no sense. Have anyone seen anything official from Autodesk? Have you asked Shaan? BTW: I'm in the exact same boat as you. I suspect a majority of ARD users are in the same boat also. There is just no way this was a conscience decision. This HAS to be a mistake, right? I mean it makes no sense. Have anyone seen anything official from Autodesk? Have you asked Shaan?

BTW: I’m in the exact same boat as you. I suspect a majority of ARD users are in the same boat also.

]]> By: ralphg http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2009/04/20/autodesk-messes-up-raster-design-2010-licensing/#comment-3574 ralphg Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:28:50 +0000 http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/?p=567#comment-3574 This what corporations do when money matters more than customers. To think there are those who defended Autodesk's tripling of the upgrade fee. This what corporations do when money matters more than customers. To think there are those who defended Autodesk’s tripling of the upgrade fee.

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