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		<title>Autodesk Cloud interview May 2010 &#8211; Part 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 02:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Steve: Another issue I have with Cloud-based environments is the lack of customisation. One of the things that makes AutoCAD so efficient for people is that they can get it exactly the way they want it. With a browser-based environment, we’re pretty much stuck with what you guys decide to give us. Can you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: Another issue I have with Cloud-based environments is the lack of customisation. One of the things that makes AutoCAD so efficient for people is that they can get it exactly the way they want it. With a browser-based environment, we’re pretty much stuck with what you guys decide to give us. Can you see any solution to that in the longer term?</span></p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: From a pure technical point of view, there’s not a lot of difference in terms of the way you can customise an application on the desktop versus customising it on the web. I think AutoCAD, having a very mature application has a lot of functionality which has built up over the years to provide customisation capabilities to the nth degree. So I think it has less to do with the platform of your choice and more to do with the maturity of the solution and how much customisation the people who designed the product wanted to put in there.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: I guess you have the issue of where does that customisation live? Does it live on the PC or on the Cloud?</span></p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: A good thing about moving it to the Cloud would be that if you moved to another computer, the app would still be customised to your needs.</p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: I was going to say the same. It’s actually an advantage to store it in the Cloud because regardless of where you are accessing it from, you can still have your customisation go with you wherever you go.</p>
<p>To address your previous question about customisation, I think it’s a pretty relevant request to be able customise this application. But at the same time, remember who is the target audience for that. If you are an AutoCAD user, we assume you have AutoCAD with all the advantages that come along, but if you are not an AutoCAD user, you are somebody downstream that just wants to look at a document and collaborate on it, then you’re probably less sophisticated from that perspective and you will probably require have less customisation needs. Nevertheless, I do believe that the request to add customisation to this product is completely relevant.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: As well as user customisation, there are third party developers wanting to be able to add their own value to the product. Do you see that being available in the longer term, that you will provide an API for third party developers, whether they are commercial developers or in-house developers for large organisations to do their thing with it?</span></p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: We are considering it.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: That’s tricky, isn’t it? It’s more difficult than if you have a desktop environment. How do people provide their add-ons to customers, or to their internal users?</span></p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: I’m not sure. If you look at the major web platforms of today, look at the social ones such as Facebook, third party integration, customisation of that, that can be taken to the nth degree. I think a lot of the time, for organisations to deploy customisation on the web where you don’t even have to go to the PC and configure a customisation for a user, for that to be available centrally on-line, and to know that when you move to a different computer for example, all those extensions and all that configuration, all that good stuff, goes along with you, it’s actually an advantage. You can do a lot of the things around customisation and configuration of the product on line, that would be harder to do sometimes on a desktop.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: There are a limited number of DWG object types that are currently supported. I assume you’ll be adding to them over time. What about 3D objects?</span></p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: Butterfly supports all AutoCAD 2D objects that are supported by horizontal or vanilla AutoCAD at this time, so you can view that, and you can have drawings from vertical versions with proxy graphics that will be displayed. So for 2D I think you have probably full and complete support for 2D data types. Before we move on to 3D, we want to make sure we nail the experience just right. You say you have a list of things you’d like to see us improve in 2D, and we’d like to be able to go and work on as many of our users’ lists for 2D before we head on over to 3D, because at the end of the day it’s all about nailing the experience just right rather than just adding a lot of the functionality to the product which is not fully mature and fully complete, and as a result of that, not add value to our customers.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: I guess people may be concerned with losing data because you’re not supporting the full set of object types. Is round-tripping fully supported?</span></p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: I can rest your mind at ease on that point. When you upload an AutoCAD drawing to Butterfly, that file is not converted, and resides in fully original form on the server. And when you make changes, for example on line, those changes are then injected into the drawing using authentic genuine DWG technology, so when you download that file back to your computer, you maintain full integrity of it. There’s no conversion process, no data loss, and you get a very strong experience on that front. So users should not have any concerns at all concerning that.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: So round-tripping works with everything; is that true? For example, you may have a Civil 3D DWG that you modify using Butterfly. Does the drawing return fully intact, including the Civil 3D objects with all their intelligence?</span></p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: That Civil 3D object is intact in the same way that if you take that Civil 3D drawing, and open it in AutoCAD LT and manipulate geometry. All your Civil 3D objects remain intact. It’s the exact same experience. That data is not modified, it’s not converted, it’s not lost. While Butterfly may not be able to edit the contents of those Civil 3D objects in the same way that AutoCAD LT or AutoCAD vanilla does not enable you to, it still maintains full data integrity and there is no data loss.</p>
<p>This post concludes this interview series. Links to <a href="/2011/11/04/autodesk-cloud-interview-may-2010-part-1/" target="_blank">part 1</a> and <a href="http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/11/08/autodesk-cloud-interview-may-2010-part-2/" target="_blank">part 2</a>.</p>
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		<title>The worst feature ever added to AutoCAD is&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the Ribbon, according to your selections in the What are the worst features ever added to AutoCAD? poll. As in the best ever poll, the winner (loser?) in this race had no serious competition. I&#8217;ve listed eleven top (bottom?) features here rather than ten, partly because the popular (unpopular?) choice Memory Overuse isn&#8217;t exactly a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the <strong>Ribbon</strong>, according to your selections in the <em>What are the worst features ever added to AutoCAD?</em> <a href="http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/pollsarchive/" target="_blank">poll</a>. As in the <a href="/2011/11/07/the-best-feature-ever-added-to-autocad-is/" target="_blank">best ever</a> poll, the winner (loser?) in this race had no serious competition. I&#8217;ve listed eleven top (bottom?) features here rather than ten, partly because the popular (unpopular?) choice <em>Memory Overuse</em> isn&#8217;t exactly a feature. But it&#8217;s mainly because I&#8217;d hate to see <a href="/2008/04/09/autocad-2009-action-recorder-needs-action/" target="_blank">Action Recorder</a> unfairly miss out on a well-deserved mention.</p>
<ul>
<li>Ribbon (30%)</li>
<li>CUI (20%)</li>
<li>Help (on line / 2012) (18%)</li>
<li>Memory Overuse (17%)</li>
<li>AutoCAD Today (2000i/2002) (16%)</li>
<li>White / Cream Drawing Background (16%)</li>
<li>Unreconciled Layers (16%)</li>
<li>Nudge (10%)</li>
<li>Blipmode (9%)</li>
<li>Proxy Object Compatibility (9%)</li>
<li>Action Recorder (8%)</li>
</ul>
<p>Given the <a href="http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/autocad-2009-why-do-you-hate-the-ribbon/" target="_blank">reception</a> the <a href="http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/tag/ribbon/" target="_blank">Ribbon</a> received when it was introduced, maybe it&#8217;s unsurprising to see it top the lists here. Cloud observers may find it interesting to note that that Autodesk&#8217;s attempt to move AutoCAD&#8217;s Help on line has been very poorly received. Yo Autodesk with your Cloud an&#8217; all, I&#8217;m really happy for you, I&#8217;ma let you finish, but on-line Help has been voted one of the worst features of all time! <em>Of all time!</em></p>
<p>The dislike of the intrusive, useful-to-some but short-lived AutoCAD Today feature remains strong a decade later. Light drawing backgrounds remain unpopular, which should not be a surprise to anyone, except maybe some people at Autodesk who thought it was a good idea to rehash old mistakes in a new and exciting way (&#8220;This time it&#8217;s <em>magnolia!</em>&#8220;). History, doomed to repeat, etc.</p>
<p>As for poor old Action Recorder, that has to be the ultimate brochure feature. It&#8217;s something for Autodesk to boast about rather than something for customers to actually use; &#8220;We responded to customer requests and fulfilled AUGI wishlists for a macro recorder!&#8221; Well, you did, kind of, by giving us something that&#8217;s about as useful as a chocolate fireguard. Looks nice, though. Autodesk, please try again, but this time do it properly.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to note that the &#8220;worst ever&#8221; list is significantly younger than the &#8220;best ever&#8221; list. Only poor old blipmode is truly ancient. Only a single &#8220;best&#8221; feature (dynamic blocks) comes from AutoCAD 2006 or later. (In fact, that&#8217;s the only feature in the &#8220;best&#8221; list that was even introduced this century). In comparison, most of the &#8220;worst&#8221; list comes from AutoCAD 2006 or later, including the top (bottom?) three. So what does <em>that</em> tell you?</p>
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		<title>Autodesk Cloud interview May 2010 &#8211; Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 05:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Steve: Autodesk is currently giving away these Cloud-based services, Butterfly for example. Presumably you’re not going to keep doing that for ever. Are you going to start charging for these services eventually?</p> <p>Guri: Again, you’re pushing us to talk about future. Currently, for as long as this is in a Labs environment, we’re encouraging [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: Autodesk is currently giving away these Cloud-based services, Butterfly for example. Presumably you’re not going to keep doing that for ever. Are you going to start charging for these services eventually?</span></p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: Again, you’re pushing us to talk about future. Currently, for as long as this is in a Labs environment, we’re encouraging users to use it and we’re giving it free in the Labs environment and we’re not putting any limits on it during the Labs experiment. Once we make it a commercial product we may change that.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: I put a poll on my blog asking readers what they thought about CAD on the Cloud, and most of them are either concerned or frightened. Solidworks users are in revolt about what they see as being forced onto the Cloud. Why do you think there is this fear or apprehension of CAD on the Cloud?</span></p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: I’m not sure. I’m curious myself about this type of reaction. Maybe it’s fear of the unknown, it’s a new environment, maybe there is some fear about security of documents while they are in the Cloud, it’s just “it’s a new thing”. We believe the approaches we are taking in providing a complementary product to the desktop environment which takes advantage of the latest and greatest web technology and enables those advantages to the user actually will make them feel more at ease. We’re not changing their normal CAD tools, we’re adding to them by enhancing them to take advantage of the capability of infinite storage and infinite CPU that the Cloud brings to them. So in a way, it’s a mixed environment. It’s probably easier to think about moving from desktop only to a mix of desktop and Cloud rather than a step-function where you move entirely to the Cloud.</p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: Yeah, and when moving to a new platform, you probably know, even when moving to PCs say 10 or 15 years ago, there was a lot of apprehension and whenever you move to a new platform (and rightly so), you’re going to see a lot of concerns being raised by users and it’s our responsibility to provide our users with a very gradual and easy migration path which enables them to pick which components, which things, which processes they would like to do on the desktop and which make more sense to be able to do on the web.</p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: Steve, you’ve been around CAD for many, many years. You know that CAD users usually worry about a few things. They worry about their documents and drawings. They have a lot of investment in archives of documents and drawings, they want to know that whatever changes happen in the future in the world, will enable them to keep using those drawings as usual. The other thing they worry about is their own training and experience, the way they work every day. They have a lot of habits and practices that they develop over the years and they want to know that they don’t have to retrain themselves or any other new users into new ways of doing things. And what we’re proposing is addressing both. You can use your drawings, this is still DWG, these are still AutoCAD documents, you don’t have to change, every drawing that you have that is created now or 10 years ago is still going to be useful.</p>
<p>So that’s one comment and the other is you can still use AutoCAD; that’s your tool of choice and whatever you do in the Cloud we purposely keep very simple so learning it and training it is really a very, very simple task.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: I think you raised a valid point there about people being afraid of “what’s going to happen to my drawings”; people are concerned that if they move completely to the Cloud then they’re handing over control; they no longer have control of their documents. Do you think that’s a valid concern?</span></p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: Well, I think that’s a concern, and people who have it will probably have it for a long time. What we want to do is let them choose how to deal with that. So we are not forcing anything here; we’re letting them keep their drawings on the desktop if they want, we’re letting them upload to the Cloud if they want to take advantage of it, so it’s entirely up to the user what to do. What we’re trying to do is show them that if they want to move to the Cloud, the advantages are the same advantages as photography sites such as Picasa. If you upload your family photos to the Cloud, somebody has done the backup for you; somebody has put security on it that is probably even better than you can do yourself, you can share it easily with others, provide access to your family without sending attachments and stuff like that. So there is a lot of advantages. We’re telling users it’s completely up to you; there are advantages that come along with moving stuff to the Cloud, if you’re not confident with that, that’s perfectly fine, stay on the desktop. So we’re letting the user do it at their own pace.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: Can I share some of my experiences with using Butterfly? Perhaps I was using it wrong; I was trying to draw with it! As you’ve indicated, that’s maybe not what it’s really there for. I found that it wouldn’t open some drawings that I tried to upload. The display was a bit fuzzy, particularly on text, particularly when it was selected. A big issue I have with it is that I have two great big screens here in front of me and because Butterfly is confined to a browser window, it’s only using one rectangle. With AutoCAD, I can grab various bits and pieces of the interface and drag them over to the second screen, so I find Butterfly rather limiting. There also seems to be a lot of wasted space in the Butterfly environment. I can get AutoCAD to use about 91% of the screen space for drawing area; with Butterfly it was about 53%. So you’re working in a tiny little window. People pay lots of money for these big screens, and because you’re working within a browser, and because within that there’s a lot of wasted space, a lot of that investment is wasted. I’ll stop there before I confuse you all, but I have a great big list here of stuff that I found difficult to live with.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: I’d love to have that list. We get a lot of requests from users, and a lot of different things bother different people. You know, we get a lot of requests that are the complete opposite, like I have a laptop with a small screen so I want to be able to optimise, I use Butterfly on the go, I need to have Butterfly optimised for that kind of resolution. But if you have a list of things we’d actually love to see it, and a lot of the times when you’re connected to a product designer on our team and have you talk to him and really go through the things that bother you, because at the end of the day it’s really our job to be able to do a good job and provide the tools which a user loves and delights users, and be able to focus on the things that are important to the majority of users and really do a good job of nailing those experiences. So if you have a list we’d love to have it and engage with you on it and see what makes sense for us to put in there and what we feel is not the highest priority for us feature-wise right now.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: I’m sure you’re working on printing/plotting, because it’s pretty terrible at the moment. I’m sure I don’t need to tell you that’s a priority.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: Basically it does not plot right now. It enables you to print your screen, but not plot. I wouldn’t say it’s bad plotting, it does not plot right now. If you want a quick printout of whatever you have on screen, it will do the job. Plotting is one feature that is definitely very interesting to us, it’s important to a lot of users, and we’re definitely looking into it, and providing hopefully in the future a better experience revolving around that.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: And the limitation of selecting more than 30 objects; is that going to go away at some stage?</span></p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: I believe you’re going to be seeing a lot of improvements in that area relatively shortly.</p>
<p>Links to <a href="/2011/11/04/autodesk-cloud-interview-may-2010-part-1/" target="_blank">part 1</a> and <a href="/2011/11/11/autodesk-cloud-interview-may-2010-part-3/" target="_blank">part 3</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;LISP. I have now closed the What are the best features ever added to AutoCAD? poll, and the winner is AutoLISP/Visual LISP, by a long, long way. I don&#8217;t always agree with the majority view expressed in the polls here, but in this case I wholeheartedly agree. Adding LISP was the biggest and best [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;<strong>LISP</strong>. I have now closed the <em>What are the best features ever added to AutoCAD?</em> poll, and the winner is AutoLISP/Visual LISP, by a long, long way. I don&#8217;t always agree with the majority view expressed in the polls here, but in this case I wholeheartedly agree. Adding LISP was the biggest and best thing that ever happened to AutoCAD. Autodesk owes an enormous debt of gratitude to John Walker for incorporating the work of David Betz, who was of course standing on the shoulders of John McCarthy. It&#8217;s a crying shame that Autodesk has been so terribly neglectful of Visual LISP for over a decade.</p>
<p>Here are your top ten &#8220;best ever&#8221; AutoCAD features:</p>
<ul>
<li>AutoLISP / Visual LISP (32%)</li>
<li>Paper / Model Space / Layouts (21%)</li>
<li>Xrefs (20%)</li>
<li>Copy / Paste between drawings (19%)</li>
<li>Dynamic Blocks (16%)</li>
<li>Object Snaps (15%)</li>
<li>Layer Visibility per Viewport (12%)</li>
<li>Undo (12%)</li>
<li>Grips (12%)</li>
<li>AutoSnap (9%)</li>
</ul>
<p>Something interesting I noticed is the age of these features:</p>
<ul>
<li>AutoLISP / Visual LISP &#8211; <strong>1985</strong> (significantly improved 1999)</li>
<li>Paper / Model Space / Layouts &#8211; <strong>1990</strong> (significantly improved 1999)</li>
<li>Xrefs &#8211; <strong>1990</strong></li>
<li>Copy / Paste between drawings &#8211; <strong>1991</strong></li>
<li>Dynamic Blocks &#8211; <strong>2005</strong></li>
<li>Object Snaps &#8211; <strong>1984</strong></li>
<li>Layer Visibility per Viewport &#8211; <strong>1990</strong> (improved 2008)</li>
<li>Undo &#8211; <strong>1986</strong></li>
<li>Grips &#8211; <strong>1992</strong></li>
<li>AutoSnap &#8211; <strong>1992</strong></li>
</ul>
<p>The youngest feature here is 6 years old, the oldest is 27. The average top-ten AutoCAD feature is over 20 years old. What does that tell you?</p>
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		<title>Autodesk Cloud interview May 2010 &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>On 26 May 2010, I had the opportunity to ask Autodesk some questions about the Cloud in general and what was then Project Butterfly (now AutoCAD WS) in particular. The Autodesk people were:</p> Guri Stark,Vice President, AutoCAD &#38; Platform Products Tal Weiss, R&#38;D Center Manager (Israel) Noah Cole, Corporate Media Relations <p>The interview was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 26 May 2010, I had the opportunity to ask Autodesk some questions about the Cloud in general and what was then Project Butterfly (now AutoCAD WS) in particular. The Autodesk people were:</p>
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<li>Guri Stark,Vice President, AutoCAD &amp; Platform Products</li>
<li>Tal Weiss, R&amp;D Center Manager (Israel)</li>
<li>Noah Cole, Corporate Media Relations</li>
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<p>The interview was conducted by phone conference with no prior notice of the questions. Here is the first part of the interview, which I will be posting in three sections.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: Guri, are you responsible for all of Autodesk’s Cloud-based offerings?</span></p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: Tal and I are responsible for Butterfly, that’s the only Cloud-based offering that we are responsible for.</p>
<p><strong>Noah</strong>: Steve, you can put the cloud-based offerings into three categories, those that are related to current products and therefore come out of the same organisations and divisions that those products come out of. So Butterfly which is related to AutoCAD so it’s coming out of the AutoCAD group. Similarly what you’d see happening with manufacturing and those projects. You also have the more emerging Cloud solutions like Dragonfly was (that’s now Homestyler) that’s coming out of Labs. So you see projects coming out of either the divisions if it’s related to product or the Labs group if it’s more forward-looking.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: Can you give me a one-sentence summary of each of the Cloud-based offerings and what market it’s intended to fill?</span></p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: Butterfly is one we’ll talk about in more detail in a minute. One we just launched as a product is Autodesk Homestyler (previously Project Dragonfly). It’s a SaaS-based offering done completely in a browser, targeting the home improvement market. It’s free to the end user so users who want to redecorate or remodel their kitchen or their living room can access this product, do a layout, place in it different types of furniture from libraries, and see how physical spaces fit together in this 2D and 3D type of product which is a completely SaaS-based offering.</p>
<p>The end user for this is not traditionally an engineer or CAD user at all, it’s more like the person at home; a typical user would be a 35-year-old lady who is interested in home decoration. The libraries in the product are either generic libraries or branded vendor-provided libraries from a variety of vendors in this space. That’s another type of product using SaaS technology that enabled us to get into a market that we’re currently not in.</p>
<p>There are other projects going on under the umbrella of taking existing products and trying to run them in a Cloud environment, and measuring the performance that they give us. All of them are experimental; some of them are on Labs already with some limitations of distance. So if you are in the California area you can try and use, mostly for trial and evaluation, some of our products such as AutoCAD or Inventor even, in this type of environment. You don’t need to install anything because the application runs in the Cloud; you have full access to the full application for a trial perspective.So there are different approaches to the Cloud. One approach is starting from scratch, developing something like Butterfly or Homestyler from scratch in the cloud to try and target a new market possibly. Another attempt is to take an existing application and try and run them centrally in the Cloud and see whatever performance it gets. Currently our intent is to use it for product evaluation.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: The existing products running in the Cloud in the geographically restricted trial, is it just AutoCAD and Inventor?</span></p>
<p><strong>Noah</strong>: AutoCAD, Inventor and Maya are the only ones currently running. There are also two recent technology previews happening in Manufacturing for Centaur and Cumulus which are different, but that involves Inventor and Moldflow.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: With my experience with Project Butterfly, I agree that as a collaboration and review and viewing/markup tool it’s excellent, but it seems to me that it’s also being promoted as a drafting tool; that people will actually draw with it. It doesn’t seem so strong to me, for that. What is Project Butterfly now, and what is it going to end up being?</span></p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: Steve, we’re not promoting this as a drafting tool, we say that the real authoring tool to create drawings is AutoCAD on the desktop. This enables you to upload a drawing that was created using AutoCAD to the Cloud, and in addition to review it and annotate it and share it; you can also make changes to it, to edit it. So what we’re providing in Butterfly is editing tools, not really drawing creation tools. I can tell you we have a free product called Autodesk Design Review, this product has only viewing and annotation capabilities. What a lot of users there are asking for is some basic editing tools where they want to make some local changes, and that’s what we are providing. The editing tools are intended for users that are not necessarily AutoCAD users, we keep them simple for that purpose.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>Steve</strong>: So it’s not intended to be a drafting tool and you never intend it to actually become one in the end; is that correct?</span></p>
<p><strong>Guri</strong>: I’d rather not comment on future direction. I can tell you right now that the positioning of the product is as a web accompaniment to AutoCAD, in a way similar to Microsoft’s Office Online in the most recent Office application is doing, in which an author on the desktop using Microsoft Word can upload it to the Cloud, view it, share it, edit it. So we are enabling editing of documents in the Cloud.</p>
<p><strong>Tal</strong>: Just to add to that, we have different platforms, the desktop and the web. Each platform does certain things very well. So authoring, for example, on the desktop is something that is great, it’s mature and you can do a lot of amazing stuff there. What we want to focus on in building a tool for the web is leverage what the web can do for our users. Stuff like being able to access from anywhere, design timeline, collaboration, sharing; really hitting all those sweet spots instead of trying to imitate what’s already up there on the desktop and is working well. That’s why you see the different focus on the different platforms trying to do that thing it can do best.</p>
<p>Links to <a href="/2011/11/08/autodesk-cloud-interview-may-2010-part-2/" target="_blank">part 2</a> and <a href="/2011/11/11/autodesk-cloud-interview-may-2010-part-3/" target="_blank">part 3</a>.</p>
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		<title>All major Autodesk products on the Cloud by 2014?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>As reported by multiple on-line news outlets, Autodesk just announced that it is increasing its research and development budget (having slashed it last year), and increasing the percentage of that budget on the Cloud. Carl Bass:</p> <p>When there are technology transitions in place, you better be more mindful of that, or you become roadkill.</p> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As reported by <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/31/BULJ1LOILV.DTL" target="_blank">multiple</a> <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-01/autodesk-shifts-industry-leading-r-d-budget-toward-the-cloud.html" target="_blank">on-line</a> <a href="http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/morning_call/2011/11/autodesk-focuses-on-rd.html" target="_blank">news outlets</a>, Autodesk just announced that it is increasing its research and development budget (having slashed it last year), and increasing the percentage of that budget on the Cloud. Carl Bass:</p>
<blockquote><p>When there are technology transitions in place, you better be more mindful of that, or you become roadkill.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s fair enough. Autodesk would be stupid to ignore the Cloud, and needs to bet at least some of its cash on anything that stands a significant chance of being important. This quote from Autodesk spokesman Paul Sullivan gets more specific:</p>
<blockquote><p>We are devoting a larger percentage of our R&amp;D budget to cloud computing, with a significant portion of our new product investments going toward products that are cloud-enabled. <strong>We expect that all of our major products will be available in the cloud within the next three years.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Now &#8220;available&#8221; can mean various things. The restricted trial of Cloud-based AutoCAD, Inventor and other products is already year-old news, but that fits the &#8220;available&#8221; bill. So does a situation where the product is <em>exclusively</em> available on the Cloud and you can no longer buy standalone software. Between those two extremes, there are a variety of possible definitions of &#8220;available&#8221;. So we&#8217;re not <em>that</em> much wiser as a result of that statement.</p>
<p>However, one thing is clear. Autodesk is spending up big on making this Cloud thing happen, so traditional software is going to suffer from a comparitive lack of investment. Autodesk customers, you&#8217;re the source of all that cash. How do you feel about subsidising the move of your software tools to the Cloud?</p>
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		<title>(so (long (and (thanks (for (all (the (parentheses))))))))</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A few days ago, John McCarthy died at the age of 84. He didn&#8217;t make a fortune selling gadgets, he just profoundly affected the world of computing. He will be remembered mainly as the father of LISP, without which it is quite possible that AutoCAD and Autodesk would not have survived beyond the 80s. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few days ago, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCarthy_%28computer_scientist%29" target="_blank">John McCarthy</a> died at the age of 84. He didn&#8217;t make a fortune selling gadgets, he just profoundly affected the world of computing. He will be remembered mainly as the father of LISP, without which it is quite possible that AutoCAD and Autodesk would not have survived beyond the 80s. However, his original thinking went well beyond the development of a language. For example, 50 years ago he came up with an idea that is very relevant to what we are actively discussing today:</p>
<blockquote><p>In 1961, he was the first to publicly suggest (in a speech given to celebrate MIT&#8217;s centennial) that computer time-sharing technology might lead to a future in which computing power and even specific applications could be sold through the utility business model (like water or electricity). This idea of a computer or information utility was very popular in the late 1960s, but faded by the mid-1990s. However, since 2000, the idea has resurfaced in new forms (see application service provider, grid computing, and cloud computing.)</p>
<p><em>(Credit: <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a>)</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Back to LISP, I still use John&#8217;s antique language today. It&#8217;s still the best language choice for the vast majority of the development I do. Thanks, John.</p>
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		<title>Really nasty and destructive AutoCAD 2012 for Mac bug</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 07:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Using AutoCAD 2012 for Mac? Don&#8217;t use special characters such as # in your folder names, because AutoCAD will, under certain circumstances, delete whole folders worth of files when you open a drawing. See here and here for more detailed information.</p> ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using AutoCAD 2012 for Mac? Don&#8217;t use special characters such as # in your folder names, because AutoCAD will, under certain circumstances, delete whole folders worth of files when you open a drawing. See <a href="http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/AutoCAD-for-Mac/AutoCAD-2012-Mac-Don-t-use-a-sign-as-a-folder-name/td-p/3184138">here</a> and <a href="http://upandready.typepad.com/up_and_ready/2011/10/autocad-2012-mac-dont-use-a-sign-as-a-folder-name.html">here</a> for more detailed information.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 08:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Using your suggestions and a few of my own, I have added two polls for you to select what are, in your opinion, the best and worst features ever added to AutoCAD. To help us find The Answer, there are 42 items in each poll, from which you can choose up to three.</p> <p>A few [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using <a href="/2011/09/19/what-are-the-best-and-worst-features-ever-added-to-autocad/">your suggestions</a> and a few of my own, I have added two polls for you to select what are, in your opinion, the best and worst features ever added to AutoCAD. To help us find The Answer, there are 42 items in each poll, from which you can choose up to three.</p>
<p>A few items (e.g. Action Recorder) made it into both lists, while several items in the &#8216;worst&#8217; list (e.g. 2012 Array, Ribbon, Annotative Scaling) were suggested multiple times. It will be interesting to see how the poll results pan out.</p>
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		<title>Autodesk Cloud &#8211; don&#8217;t panic, business as usual</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Autodesk recently made a big announcement about its Cloud initiatives, and reactions have been all over the place. Some people can barely contain their breathless excitement while others are outraged to the point of passing out the pitchforks. Why? It&#8217;s pretty much business as usual.</p> <p>It&#8217;s nothing like Dassault&#8217;s disastrous we&#8217;re-moving-you-to-the-Cloud FUD campaign against [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Autodesk recently made a big announcement about its Cloud initiatives, and reactions have been all over the place. Some people can barely contain their breathless excitement while others are outraged to the point of passing out the pitchforks. Why? It&#8217;s pretty much business as usual.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing like Dassault&#8217;s disastrous we&#8217;re-moving-you-to-the-Cloud FUD campaign against its own product, SolidWorks. There&#8217;s no hint here of AutoCAD (real AutoCAD, I mean, not &#8220;AutoCAD&#8221; WS) being moved to the Cloud, or anything as radical as that. (Yes, I know there&#8217;s a limited experiment along those lines but that&#8217;s nothing to do with this announcement). It&#8217;s just a collection of relatively minor changes to Autodesk&#8217;s existing on-line services, collected together to make a newsworthy press release.</p>
<p>(As an aside, I must say this was a much more worthwhile announcement than the ridiculously over-hyped DE8.16N thing. So I was supposed to get excited about a routine upgrade of a product I have already been using for months, on an OS I don&#8217;t use, when the upgraded product is still half-baked just like the first underwhelming effort? Fortunately, I didn&#8217;t get sucked in by the pre-announcement build-up so I wasn&#8217;t disappointed, just amused when the truth was revealed. Autodesk PR, please don&#8217;t cry wolf so often; keep the hype in reserve for the hypeworthy stuff.)</p>
<p>Back to the Cloud thing, and putting aside hype and horror, here&#8217;s the stuff that has just happened:</p>
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<li>Autodesk Cloud documents lets anybody store up to 1 GB documents on-line, or 3 GB if you&#8217;re a Subscription customer. This isn&#8217;t new, but until recently it was an Autodesk Labs project called Nitrous. The infrastructure is provided via Amazon and Citrix.</li>
<li>AutoCAD WS has been updated to integrate its storage with Autodesk Cloud documents. Remember, WS isn&#8217;t anything like real AutoCAD, but rather a limited on-line DWG editing tool. There&#8217;s a WS iPhone app, but that&#8217;s not new.</li>
<li>There&#8217;s an Autodesk Design Review iPhone app for reviewing DWF files you’ve stored in Autodesk Cloud. It won&#8217;t do DWG; use WS for that.</li>
<li>There are several cloud-based services that are available &#8220;free&#8221; to Subscription-paying users of a small subset of Autodesk software, mostly Revit and Inventor-based suites. They are: 
<ul>
<li>Inventor Optimization</li>
<li>Cloud Rendering</li>
<li>Green Building Studio</li>
<li>Conceptual Energy Analysis</li>
<li>Buzzsaw (now bundled with Vault Subscription)</li>
</ul>
<p>AutoCAD users need not apply for any of these services.</li>
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<p>So some of Autodesk&#8217;s on-line services are now being provided only to Subscription customers, and one is offered in improved form for Subscription customers. There are two obvious reasons for this: tie-in and revenue.</p>
<p>First, Autodesk wants its customers tied to the Subscription gravy train, if you&#8217;ll excuse a fairly awful mix of metaphors. Offering Subscription benefits like this is preferable to some of the much less pleasant arm-twisting that has been happening recently (e.g. trebling upgrade prices). Is it too much to hope that Autodesk has learned that offering carrots to its customers is a better strategy than threatening them with sticks?</p>
<p>Second, Autodesk needs to start making money out of this stuff somehow. For some years, it has spent several fortunes on buying and developing on-line services and then given them away for nothing, usually as Labs projects. This obviously can&#8217;t go on for ever, but just slapping a charge on these services wasn&#8217;t going to fly. Bundling Cloud services up with Subscription is a way of easing people into paying for them, and this is something I expect to be expanded in future, for example with AutoCAD WS. Once that&#8217;s been established for a few years, it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to then see Subscription for at least some of the services split off, so you&#8217;re paying for Cloud services explicitly. By then, enough customers may consider them to be worth paying for and they may therefore survive beyond the short term.</p>
<p>Will it work? I&#8217;m not sure. Time will tell which of these services will thrive and which will die, and such uncertainty is one of the many reasons real-world customers aren&#8217;t excited about getting their heads in the Cloud. I don&#8217;t intend to make use of these services (I&#8217;m not even allowed to), so I&#8217;m not too bothered what happens to them. Like the vast majority of Autodesk customers, I will just carry on using conventional software in that old-fashioned 20th century way that just happens to work very well. Autodesk will go on providing its software in that way, because that&#8217;s what most customers will want for at least a while yet, and Autodesk can&#8217;t survive on wisps of Cloudy revenue.</p>
<p>Move along, people, nothing to see here.</p>
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		<title>What are the best and worst features ever added to AutoCAD?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Audience participation time, I think. A comment on one of AutoCAD 2012&#8242;s new features recently set me thinking about what were the worst features ever introduced to AutoCAD. That in turn got me thinking about what were the best.</p> <p>I&#8217;ll keep my opinions to myself for a while, as I&#8217;d like your input and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Audience participation time, I think. A comment on one of AutoCAD 2012&#8242;s new features recently set me thinking about what were the worst features ever introduced to AutoCAD. That in turn got me thinking about what were the best.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep my opinions to myself for a while, as I&#8217;d like your input and don&#8217;t want to influence it. Please add a comment with your list of what you consider the best three features ever added to AutoCAD and the worst three. If you can&#8217;t think of three of each, you can submit less, but please don&#8217;t submit more. By all means discuss at length the things you love or loathe, but make it clear what you&#8217;re submitting by using a clear format like this (<strong><em>meaningless examples only</em></strong>):</p>
<p>Best:<br />
1. Content Explorer<br />
2. Online Help<br />
3. Nudge</p>
<p>Worst:<br />
1. AutoLISP<br />
2. Transparent zoom and pan<br />
3. Paper/model space</p>
<p>What do the words &#8220;feature&#8221;, &#8220;best&#8221; and &#8220;worst&#8221; mean? I&#8217;ll leave that for you to decide for yourself. You might consider &#8220;worst&#8221; to be something that&#8217;s a bad idea, poorly implemented, slow, inefficient, poorly documented, bloated, buggy, half-baked in the short or long term, clueless in some other way, or some or all of the above. It&#8217;s up to you.</p>
<p>When I have enough submissions, I&#8217;ll collate the most popular (and unpopular) features into a pair of polls for you all to vote on. Have fun!</p>
<p>Edit: I have now added the polls and closed comments on this post.</p>
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		<title>Taking control of your command line history</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/09/13/taking-control-of-your-command-line-history/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 03:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Kean Walmsley&#8217;s post on his Through the Interface blog, I have learned something that would have been handy to know for the last decade or so, but which somehow escaped my knowledge. I learned how to increase the size of AutoCAD&#8217;s command line history cache. It defaults to 400 lines, which isn&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Kean Walmsley&#8217;s <a href="http://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interface/2011/08/increasing-the-size-of-autocads-command-line-history.html" target="_blank">post</a> on his <a href="http://through-the-interface.typepad.com/" target="_blank">Through the Interface</a> blog, I have learned something that would have been handy to know for the last decade or so, but which somehow escaped my knowledge. I learned how to increase the size of AutoCAD&#8217;s command line history cache. It defaults to 400 lines, which isn&#8217;t enough for me. I think this information deserves a wider audience than the ubergeek developers who frequent Kean&#8217;s blog, so here goes.</p>
<p>Although it&#8217;s not directly mentioned on Kean&#8217;s post, you can find the current command line history cache length setting like this:</p>
<p><code>(getenv "CmdHistLines")</code></p>
<p>This will return a value showing the number of command lines AutoCAD remembers, e.g. &#8220;400&#8243;. Although this is used as an integer value, it is passed to and from the Registry as a string. You can set a new value as shown below. Again, use a string, and note that values outside the range 25 to 2048 will be ignored:</p>
<p><code>(setenv "CmdHistLines" "2048")</code></p>
<p>Also, if you don&#8217;t like AutoCAD repeatedly stopping during a long listing (e.g. SETVAR ? *), you can turn off that feature by setting the QAFLAGS system variable to 2. Don&#8217;t set it to 8191 as suggested in Kean&#8217;s post, because that will change a lot of other settings, few of which are documented publicly.</p>
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		<title>Will Autodesk have to explain itself to the SEC?</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/09/12/will-autodesk-have-to-explain-itself-to-the-sec/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The observant among you may have noticed that for many years, Autodesk&#8217;s free patches, service packs and updates haven&#8217;t added any new functionality. Bugs may get fixed, severe performance issues may be addressed, but design errors generally have to wait for the next release (at the earliest), and new features definitely don&#8217;t get added.</p> <p>The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The observant among you may have noticed that for many years, Autodesk&#8217;s free patches, service packs and updates haven&#8217;t added any new functionality. Bugs may get fixed, severe performance issues may be addressed, but design errors generally have to wait for the next release (at the earliest), and new features definitely don&#8217;t get added.</p>
<p>The last time new functionality was added to AutoCAD in a free maintenance release was Release 13&#8242;s c4 update which shipped on 12 February 1996. (There was a public beta available some months earlier; I picked up a copy at Autodesk University 1995). That free update contained not only a host of bug fixes, but also more useful new features than some later full-price upgrades (e.g. AutoCAD 2000i). In an outbreak of outstanding customer service, a c4 CD was shipped free to all registered users. Maybe Autodesk was trying to recover from disastrously shipping Release 13 prematurely, but issuing such a comprehensive update free of charge was still highly commendable.</p>
<p>Why did Autodesk stop providing new functionality in free updates? While it involves more work for Autodesk and hardly encourages paid upgrades or Subscription, the reason we&#8217;ve been given over the years is that there are accounting regulations that prevent Autodesk from providing new functionality in free updates. This does not apply to benefits from paid Subscription, and various new features for Subscription users have indeed appeared (albeit in fits and starts) over the intervening years.</p>
<p>I have to admit that I have always thought that this accounting thing was a pretty unlikely-sounding excuse for Autodesk&#8217;s inactivity. This attitude was reinforced by a lack of Autodesk response to my requests for further information about the alleged regulations. Until recently, I didn&#8217;t care enough about this matter to bother finding out for myself, but something extraordinary just happened that piqued my curiosity.</p>
<p>What happened? Autodesk released a free <a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&amp;id=17692441&amp;linkID=9240618" target="_blank">Service Pack</a> that included new functionality for the first time in over 15 years. I was particularly interested in this, because part of what&#8217;s new is a new command providing a subset of the functionality of my <a href="http://www.classicarray.com" target="_blank">ClassicArray</a>™ plug-in. When I put in the time and effort to develop this product to fill a hole of Autodesk&#8217;s making, I did so on the assumption that Autodesk wasn&#8217;t going to provide an Array dialog box until at least AutoCAD 2013. It turns out that this assumption was wrong.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s all this about accounting regulations preventing new functionality being provided free between releases? Was I right to be vaguely cynical about that? After some research, it would appear that I was wrong about that, too. There is an <a href="http://www.fasb.org/" target="_blank">FASB</a> (responsible to the <a href="http://www.sec.gov/" target="_blank">SEC</a>) accounting standard called <a href="http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22SOP+97-2%22&amp;hl=en&amp;num=100" target="_blank">SOP 97-2</a>, which covers software revenue recognition. I&#8217;m no accountant and the regulations are large and complex, but here is my layman&#8217;s understanding of the basics.</p>
<p>In a simple case where a vendor (e.g. Autodesk) sells a complete product (e.g. AutoCAD 2012) at a given date, it records and declares the revenue for that product in the appropriate period as a single unit of accounting. If there are multiple elements of the product, things get more complex. If Autodesk ships part of AutoCAD 2012 (the main product) at one time and part (e.g. a Service Pack with new functionality) at another, then it is required to separate the elements into multiple units of accounting. It is required to make available vendor-specific objective evidence (VSOE) for each element of the product. If Autodesk has not done so (which seems likely), there is probably a problem. My understanding is that without VSOE, Autodesk is required to allocate the revenue for AutoCAD 2012 sales not at the point when it was received, but when all the elements have been delivered (i.e. when SP1 was released).</p>
<p>What about an argument that the new ARRAYCLASSIC command and new SNAPGRIDLEGACY system variable are not new functionality in themselves, but merely mechanisms to restore functionality that was available in previous releases? I don&#8217;t think that matters. The functionality <em>is</em> new to those customers who purchased AutoCAD 2012 and thereby provided Autodesk with revenue between March and September 2011. If that revenue has been allocated incorrectly, then Autodesk has some revenue shuffling and explaining to do.</p>
<p>I repeat that I&#8217;m not an accountant and this is all a layman&#8217;s uninformed opinion. It is quite possible that the regulations have recently changed, or that a relaxed interpretation is now permissible, or that I have the wrong end of the stick entirely. I&#8217;ve admitted being wrong in this post twice already and it could well be thrice.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m wrong and Autodesk is in the clear, that&#8217;s great. Why? Because it means Autodesk customers can look forward to a lot more functionality being provided in future service packs.</p>
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		<title>AutoCAD 2012 Service Pack 1</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/09/09/autocad-2012-service-pack-1/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 07:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The first update for AutoCAD 2012 is now available on the Autodesk site. As usual, read the readme first and exercise the usual paranoia. Make sure you install the right version (32 or 64 bit). The update is also available for AutoCAD LT 2012. There is no news yet on equivalent updates for vertical [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first update for AutoCAD 2012 is now <a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&#038;id=17692441&#038;linkID=9240618" target="_blank">available on the Autodesk site</a>. As usual, <a href="http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/autocad_2012_and_autocad_lt_2012_sp1_en.htm" target="_blank">read the readme</a> first and exercise the usual paranoia. Make sure you install the right version (32 or 64 bit). The update is also available for <a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&#038;id=17692311&#038;linkID=9240818" target="_blank">AutoCAD LT 2012</a>. There is no news yet on equivalent updates for vertical variants of AutoCAD, so just talk amongst yourselves for a while until Autodesk gets around to it.</p>
<p>Autodesk has, thankfully, abandoned the <a href="http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2008/07/21/when-is-a-service-pack-not-a-service-pack/" target="_blank">confusing nomenclature</a> for its service packs. So this is not 2012 Update 1 with a filename that includes SP1 and which results in the software being considered 2012 Version 2. It is 2012 Service Pack 1 with a filename that includes SP1 and which results in the software being considered 2012 SP1. Why Autodesk thought the former convention made sense is beyond me, but at least it&#8217;s over now.</p>
<p>This Service Pack is unusual for more than that, though. It&#8217;s the first free update since R13c4 in 1996 to include new functionality, i.e. a new command (ARRAYCLASSIC) and a new system variable (SNAPGRIDLEGACY). I&#8217;ll have more to say on that later.</p>
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		<title>AutoCAD 2012 drawing mangler hotfix</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/06/27/autocad-2012-drawing-mangler-hotfix/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 03:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In AutoCAD 2012 and products based on it, saving the drawing while in the block editor can result in your whole drawing being replaced by the block you&#8217;re editing. As this can be somewhat inconvenient, it&#8217;s probably a good idea to download and install Autodesk&#8217;s hotfix for this problem. As always, read the readme [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In AutoCAD 2012 and products based on it, saving the drawing while in the block editor can result in your whole drawing being replaced by the block you&#8217;re editing. As this can be somewhat inconvenient, it&#8217;s probably a good idea to download and install Autodesk&#8217;s <a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/getdoc/id=DL17244799" target="_blank">hotfix for this problem</a>. As always, <a href="http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/block_editor_save_corruption_hotfix_readme.html" target="_blank">read the readme</a> first.</p>
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		<title>AutoCAD 2012 &#8211; Autodesk adds an uninstallation analgesic</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/06/01/autocad-2012-autodesk-adds-an-uninstallation-analgesic/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 04:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>One of the more painful aspects of dealing with installations of recent releases of AutoCAD and related products is that although you might run a single setup routine to install what you think is a single application, the end result is a mass of different components being installed. Each of these components is considered a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the more painful aspects of dealing with installations of recent releases of AutoCAD and related products is that although you might run a single setup routine to install what you think is a single application, the end result is a mass of different components being installed. Each of these components is considered a separate program by Windows, and needs uninstalling separately. Frankly, this is manifestly antisocial behaviour.</p>
<p>I have complained to Autodesk about this ever since it started happening, but the number of sub-installations has been getting greater rather than smaller. Now Autodesk has provided an uninstallation tool, which you can find <a title="TS17031128" href="http://usa.autodesk.com/getdoc/id=TS17031128" target="_blank">here</a>. If you download and run <a title="psebuninstalltool.exe" href="http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/psebuninstalltool.exe" target="_blank">psebuninstalltool.exe</a>, you will be provided with a list of applications to uninstall.</p>
<p>This is a move in the right direction, but it&#8217;s still far from ideal. You still have to choose which applications to install and which to leave alone because they&#8217;re in use by some other application, and because of the possible complexities you&#8217;re not likely to know. Get it wrong and you can break other applications in a way that&#8217;s not immediately obvious. Also, it uninstalls English language products only and is provided &#8220;as-is&#8221; as an unsupported tool.</p>
<p>This is a welcome kludge to help with a problem that shouldn&#8217;t exist. Users simply shouldn&#8217;t have to deal with this nonsense. If you install one application, you should be able to just uninstall one application and it should be gone, without breaking anything else. Autodesk, thanks for this interim assistance, but I look forward to the problem being removed in future releases, rather than partially patched over.</p>
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		<title>AutoCAD 2012 &#8211; How to &#8220;hatch&#8221; using any objects</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/05/30/autocad-2012-how-to-hatch-using-any-objects/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 08:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a trick you can use in AutoCAD 2012 to fill an area with any objects you like. It&#8217;s not actually hatching, but it has several advantages over the real thing:</p> You aren&#8217;t restricted to straight line segments as you are with real hatching. Circles, splines, even solid objects, you name it, you can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a trick you can use in AutoCAD 2012 to fill an area with any objects you like. It&#8217;s not actually hatching, but it has several advantages over the real thing:</p>
<ul>
<li>You aren&#8217;t restricted to straight line segments as you are with real hatching. Circles, splines, even solid objects, you name it, you can use it.</li>
<li>To define the pattern, you don&#8217;t have to master an arcane file format or use trigonometry to work out the numbers used in it. Just draw the objects you want repeated.</li>
<li>You can easily change the spacing between the objects later, or even change the objects themselves.</li>
</ul>
<p>How is this done? Use the new associative array feature, then use XClip to restrict the displayed objects to within a specified boundary. For example, let&#8217;s say you have a polyline you want filled with green spheres, and a green sphere already drawn. The sequence is:</p>
<ul>
<li>Use the Array command to create a rectangular array of spheres that more than covers the whole area you want &#8220;hatched&#8221;. You might prefer to use my <a href="http://www.classicarray.com/">ClassicArray</a> add-on for this, but it will make no difference to the finished objects.</li>
<li>Use the XClip command and select the array of spheres. Press Enter to accept the default option of New. Type S [Enter] to select the polyline, then pick the polyline. Done!</li>
</ul>
<p>Don&#8217;t have a handy polyline defining the area? No problem, just create one before you start using the Boundary command.</p>
<p>There are some restrictions to this technique that do not apply to normal hatching. For example, any arc segments in the polyline will be treated as if they were straight lines, which isn&#8217;t very useful. But this method will work in most cases, and it sure beats spending hours trying to get your hatch pattern definition just right. You can even use an array of arrays to get some very interesting effects. For example, you could have a series of circles in a wave-form path array, which is then arrayed in a rectangular form before being Xclipped.</p>
<p>Not using AutoCAD 2012? You can do something similar using Minsert. Instead of Array, use the Block command to convert your objects to a block, then the Minsert command to insert it in a series of array-like rows and columns. Finally, Xclip it as described above.</p>
<p>Edit: In a comment, Patrick Emin reminded me of the Express Tools command SuperHatch. This allows you to use an image, block, xref, or wipeout object as a hatch pattern. It also automatically takes care of various details, including converting arcs within the boundary to straight line segments. However, the end result can be hundreds of individual blocks collated into a group, rather than just one configurable object if you use the Array or Minsert methods I describe above.</p>
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		<title>How to make Ctrl+C perform a Cancel</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/05/27/how-to-make-ctrlc-perform-a-cancel/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 03:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In a recent comment, I was asked how to make Ctrl+C perform a Cancel. Before I get onto that, here&#8217;s a bit of history.</p> <p>Back in the Dark Ages of DOS, the way to cancel a command was by holding down Ctrl and pressing C. The last release to work like this by default [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a recent <a href="http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/04/14/autocad-2012-putting-things-back-to-normal/#comment-6168">comment</a>, I was asked how to make Ctrl+C perform a Cancel. Before I get onto that, here&#8217;s a bit of history.</p>
<p>Back in the Dark Ages of DOS, the way to cancel a command was by holding down Ctrl and pressing C. The last release to work like this by default was Release 13 for DOS, released in 1994. I remember the bother it caused my users who were faced with the Windows version in which Esc was used to cancel things and Ctrl+C copied objects to the clipboard. It took me at least a year before I had totally removed Ctrl+C = Cancel from my muscle memory.</p>
<p>Until AutoCAD 2005, Autodesk provided an easy option to keep things the way they were by turning off the toggle Options &gt; User Preferences &gt; Windows standard accelerator keys. In recent AutoCAD releases, you have still been able to do it, but it&#8217;s a little more involved and uses the CUI command. Here&#8217;s how:</p>
<ul>
<li>Enter the CUI command.</li>
<li>In the top left pane, burrow down to Keyboard Shortcuts &gt; Shortcut Keys.</li>
<li>In the bottom left pane, scroll down to find the Cancel item. Click and drag it onto Shortcut Keys in the top left pane. Because of a long-standing auto-scroll annoyance in the CUI interface, you will find this easier if you drag off to the right, then up, then left onto Shortcut Keys.</li>
</ul>
<p>That adds Ctrl+C = Cancel to the set of shortcut keys AutoCAD understands, but it won&#8217;t work yet because it will clash with the Ctrl+C = CopyClip shortcut key that&#8217;s already in there. We need to get rid of that before we&#8217;re finished in CUI, or more usefully, assign it to a different key:</p>
<ul>
<li>Find Copy Clip in the Shortcut Keys list in the top left pane and click on it.</li>
<li>In the bottom right pane, find Access &gt; Key(s). Where it says CTRL+C, change that to something else of your liking (e.g. CTRL+ALT+C). If you pick the [...] button, you will be able to record the keystroke sequence directly instead of typing it in and worrying about syntax.</li>
<li>Pick OK and you&#8217;re done.</li>
</ul>
<p>This post may be directly useful to only a handful of people who are still holding out after all these years, but it also serves as an introduction to a more generally useful skill; setting up keyboard shortcuts in CUI.</p>
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		<title>Lynn Allen&#8217;s AutoCAD 2012 tips booklet is out</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 08:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Lynn Allen produces a handy tips booklet for each new release of AutoCAD, giving an easy-to-read summary of the main new features. She has made the AutoCAD 2012 online version available on her blog here.</p> ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn Allen produces a handy tips booklet for each new release of AutoCAD, giving an easy-to-read summary of the main new features. She has made the AutoCAD 2012 online version available on her blog <a href="http://lynn.blogs.com/lynn_allens_blog/2011/05/the-autocad-2012-tips-and-tricks-booklet.html">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Installation tip &#8211; save time and space</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 04:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>If you download AutoCAD or other Autodesk products from either the trial or Subscription sites, the executable you get (e.g. AutoCAD_2012_English_Win_32bit.exe) is actually a self-extracting archive rather than a real installer. When you run it, you are prompted for a destination folder, with a default location such as this:</p> <p>C:\Autodesk\AutoCAD_2012_English_Win_32bit</p> <p>The actual installer (setup.exe) and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you download AutoCAD or other Autodesk products from either the trial or Subscription sites, the executable you get (e.g. AutoCAD_2012_English_Win_32bit.exe) is actually a self-extracting archive rather than a real installer. When you run it, you are prompted for a destination folder, with a default location such as this:</p>
<p><code>C:\Autodesk\AutoCAD_2012_English_Win_32bit</code></p>
<p>The actual installer (setup.exe) and all of the files it needs are then unzipped and placed in a folder structure in that location. When the extraction is finished, the self-extracting executable automatically runs setup.exe and the installation proper can begin. Once the installation is complete, the extracted files are left in place.</p>
<p>You can take advantage of this simple knowledge in various ways:</p>
<ul>
<li>Sometimes, you may you need to run the installer more than once on the same PC. For example, you might need to uninstall/reinstall AutoCAD, or you might be a CAD Manager who installs AutoCAD for on your own PC and later creates a deployment for the other users. Or you might start installing AutoCAD, cancel it for whatever reason, then come back to it later. If so, don&#8217;t just run the downloaded executable again. Instead, locate the actual setup.exe installer that has been left behind and run that instead. That cuts out the extraction step and saves time.</li>
<li>If you&#8217;re going to do standalone installs on several PCs rather than making a deployment, don&#8217;t go through the extraction process again and again. Instead, do it once and then copy the extracted folder to a location that can be used from other PCs. This might be a USB drive or DVD, which you can store safely for later reinstalls. If you are going to install to the other PCs from a network drive, during the first install you can directly specify that as the destination folder and cut out the manual file copying step.</li>
<li>If you think it&#8217;s unlikely you&#8217;re going to need the extracted files again, you can delete or move them and recover the space. If you download a product and install it, you end up with three copies of the product files using up your space; the self-extractor, the extracted files and the installed product itself. It probably doesn&#8217;t all need to be on your C: drive. Although bulk hard disk space is plentiful and cheap, it&#8217;s becoming more common to use a small high-speed drive or SSD as the OS/program drive drive, and you might have a significant portion of it given over to a bunch of files you don&#8217;t need. Because Autodesk products are increasingly (and <a href="http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2011/04/01/autocad-2012-massive-download-bloat/">sometimes completely pointlessly</a>) bloated, you might be surprised at how much space you can recover.<br />
However, as Chris Cowgill has pointed out, you may need to have the &#8220;media&#8221; available when you install Updates, etc. Keeping a copy of the extracted files on a DVD or USB key should do the trick if you&#8217;re hard up for hard disk space.</li>
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<p>Note that this applies to the Windows downloads only; I know nothing about the mechanics of Autodesk&#8217;s Mac installation downloads.</p>
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