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25 March 2010 at 9:17 pm

AutoCAD 2011 – Putting things back to “normal”

Easily the most popular post on this blog, in terms of both hits and comments, is AutoCAD 2009 – Putting things back to “normal”. Not too far behind it is AutoCAD 2010 – Putting things back to “normal”. Apparently, lots of people find these posts useful, so here’s an updated version for the latest release. Some of this post is based on the originals, but there are significant additions and differences in this year’s Luddite post.

One thing that’s regularly asked whenever a new AutoCAD release hits the streets is how to make it work like earlier releases. As I stated in my original post, I think you should give any new features a fighting chance before turning them off or ignoring them. But it’s entirely your choice. We should be grateful that in AutoCAD 2011 at least (unlike some Autodesk products), you do still have that choice.

Let’s assume you’ve made the decision to put your environment back to AutoCAD 2008 or earlier; how do you do it?

  • Workspace. In vanilla AutoCAD, you can restore much of the user interface by just switching workspaces. The main Workspace control is now located near the top right corner. If you have turned this off (right-click, Remove from Quick Access Toolbar) or if you just prefer working with interface elements in the same place year by year, there is another Workspace control in the bottom right corner. This is a little button that looks like a gearwheel. Every odd-numbered release seems to have the current workspace name missing from this button, so this year we miss out. If you want the name, this year you need to look in the QAT. In either case, click on the Workspace control and pick the item called AutoCAD Classic. This will perform some of the steps described below, but not all of them, so I suggest you read on. If you’re using a vertical variant of AutoCAD 2011, this workspace may not be available, so you’ll need to make your own by manually setting up your interface the way you like it, then saving it as a Workspace using the Save Current As… option under one of the Workspace controls.
  • Ribbon. You can close the Ribbon with the RibbonClose command. If you ever want to turn it back on, enter Ribbon.
  • Dashboard. The AutoCAD 2007/8 Dashboard is gone, but you can have a vertical Ribbon instead. If the Ribbon is not visible (it won’t be if you just selected the AutoCAD Classic workspace), enter Riboon to bring it back. In the tab title row (the bar with the word Home in it), right-click and pick Undock. Now you can place and size your Dashboard-like thing as you see fit. As before, you can right-click on things to change the various settings. However, getting the contents exactly the way you want it usually involves using CUI, and that’s well outside the scope of this post.
  • NavBar. If you like the new NavBar feature as much as I do, you’ll want to turn it off. You can close it easily using the little X in its top left corner. Alternatively, control it with the NAVBARDISPLAY system variable (0 for off, 1 for on)
  • ViewCube. I like the ViewCube concept, and I think it’s a great piece of interface design. But not everybody agrees. It has caused performance issues and it’s not very useful for 2D users. If you want it gone, that’s a surprisingly difficult thing to find out about. It’s controlled using the Options command, in the 3D Modeling tab, in the bottom left corner. Turn off those toggles that don’t make sense for you. There is a related set of system variables called NAVVCUBExxx.
  • UCS Icon. Don’t like the new simplified UCS icon? Sorry! While you can use the UCSIcon command’s Properties option to change the appearance of the icon in various ways, there’s nothing to restore the UCS Icon’s appearance from previous releases with its little arrows pointing the way. This information isn’t totally useless, because at least it will save you the time and effort involved in finding this out for yourself.
  • Help. Unless you want your Help to work with the speed of a long-dead slug that has been nailed to a hefty piece of wood, you will want to turn off AutoCAD 2011′s online help. Go into Options again, this time in the System tab, then look in the bottom right pane to turn off the Use online help toggle. Even with online help turned off, you’re stuck with the unfortunate new browser-based Help interface. While you’re looking there, you may also wish to turn off AutoCAD’s insistence on firing up Internet Explorer, that is if you dislike IE or have security concerns.
  • Pull-down Menus. Enter MENUBAR 1 to turn pull-down menus on. To turn them off again, enter MENUBAR 0.
  • Toolbars. In AutoCAD 2009, you could turn individual toolbars on and off by accessing a menu obtained by right-clicking on the QAT. Autodesk rather nastily removed that option in 2010, and it’s still gone in 2011. That menu is still available if you right-click in an unused docked toolbar area, but if you have no toolbars visible there will be no such area available. What to do? Turn on one toolbar at the Command prompt, then you will be able to access the menu by right-clicking on the blank area to the right of it. The following command sequence will do it:
    _.-TOOLBAR ACAD.Standard _Top 0,0
    Paste this into AutoCAD’s command line area and the Standard toolbar will be turned on above your drawing area. This will leave a grey area to the right that you can right-click into. The other toolbars will be in sub-menus under that, with the main set of default ones in the AutoCAD section. Note that this will only work if you have the acad.cuix file loaded (or partially loaded). This is the case in vanilla AutoCAD and some verticals, but it may not be the case in other verticals. As I don’t have access to such verticals, I’m afraid I can’t offer much advice here.
  • Graphic Background. Autodesk has half-listened to users’ pleas for a black background by giving you a nearly black one (RGB 33,40,48 rather than 0,0,0), in model space only. Many of you will want a real black background to provide better contrast. To do this, invoke the Options command (right-click on the drawing area and pick Options… or just enter OP), then pick the Display tab. Don’t be tempted to choose Color Scheme and set it to Dark, because that just changes the appearance of various user interface elements. Instead, pick the Colors… button. This will put you in the Drawing Window Colors dialogue box. On the left, choose a context you want to change (e.g. 2D model space), choose the appropriate background element (e.g. Uniform background) and choose the particular shade that takes your fancy. There is a Restore Classic Colors button, but that only takes you back to AutoCAD 2008 with its black model and white paper space. If you want a black paper space background too, you’ll have to pick the Sheet / layout context and specify that individually. When you’re done, pick Apply & Close, then OK.
  • Crosshairs. Want 100% crosshairs? Many people do. As before, use the Options command’s Display tab and look towards the bottom right, or use the CURSORSIZE system variable.
  • Status bar. Right-click on a status bar button, turn off Use Icons and your old text-based status bar buttons will return. If you have no use for some of the new status bar toggles, right-click on one, pick Display, then turn off what you don’t need.
  • Grid. I much prefer the new line-based grid. If you don’t, right-click on the Grid status button and pick Settings…, which will take you into the Drafting Settings dialogue box, which you can also get at with the DSettings command, or DS for short. In the Snap and Grid tab, the grid is controlled by the options on the right. If you want your dots back, turn on the toggles in the Grid style section. This can also be done using the GRIDSTYLE system variable. If you don’t like the fact that the grid is now on by default in new drawings, this is set on a drawing-by-drawing basis and is therefore controlled by your template drawings. If you use AutoCAD’s supplied templates, you will need to open them individually and turn off the grid in each one.
  • Dynamic Input. If Dynamic Input slows you down, you can turn it off with the status bar toggle or F12. If you like the general idea but don’t like some parts of it, there are lots of options available in the Dynamic Input tab of the DSettings command to enable you to control it to a fine degree. You can also get at this by right-clicking the Dynamic Input status bar button and picking Settings… As an example of the sort of thing you might do in there, the default of using relative coordinates is difficult for long-termers to get used to. To turn it off, pick the Settings… button in the Pointer Input panel, pick Absolute coordinates, then OK twice. There are a whole range of DYNxxx system variables for controlling this stuff.
  • Xref fading. Don’t like your xrefs looking different? Use the Options command’s Display tab and look at the Xref display slider on the bottom right, or use the XDWGFADECTL system variable.
  • Selection. Selection Preview annoys some users, adding as it does an unfortunate degree of stickiness and working inaccurately when Snap is in use. This is controlled in the Selection tab of the Options command. Turn off the toggles in the Selection preview panel on the left (these control the SELECTIONPREVIEW system variable). If you dislike the coloured boxes you get while doing a Window or Crossing, pick the Visual Effect Settings… button and turn off the Indicate selection area toggle. This controls the SELECTIONAREA system variable.
  • Hatch dialog box. If you want the Ribbon on but prefer the old Hatch dialog box, set HPDLGMODE to 1.
  • Hatch double-click. If you’re not using the new Ribbon-based hatch editing feature, you will probably want to invoke the HatchEdit command when you double-click on a hatch object. Doing this involves braving the CUI interface, but I have gone into step-by-step detail of that process here. In short, you need to drag and drop the Hatch Edit command from the bottom left CUI panel onto the double-click action for Hatch in the top left panel, replacing the default action (Properties).
  • Classic commands. If you prefer not to leave the various new palettes on screen all the time, old versions of various commands are still available: ClassicLayer, ClassicXref and ClassicImage. (Autodesk has deprecated these commands in 2011, which I think is a really bad idea). There is also a system variable LAYERDLGMODE, which when set to 0 will make the Layer command work in the old (and faster) modal way. If you use this setting, you can still access the new modeless layer palette with the LayerPalette command. Going back further, there are command-line methods of using these commands: -Layer, -Xref, XAttach, -Image and ImageAttach.

If you have allowed AutoCAD to migrate your settings (I never do), some of the above will already be done for you, but by no means all of it. If past experience is anything to go by, the job done by Migration will probably be imperfect.

Once you’re happy with your new environment, I suggest you save your workspace under a name of your choosing (Save Current As… under a Workspace control), then export your profile in the Options command’s Profiles tab. Keep a safe copy of both your exported profile and your main CUIX file (acad.cuix by default), because that is where new workspaces are stored.

Let me just end by saying that Autodesk generally does an excellent job of keeping long-term AutoCAD users happy by allowing them to keep working in the way that they prefer. There are exceptions, but conservative users are much better off with new releases of AutoCAD than they are with, say, Microsoft Word.

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  • dave ea
    11:55 pm on March 25th, 2010 1

    this post worth its weight in gold, Steve. thanks for taking the time to put it together.

  • Wm.J.Townsend
    12:45 am on March 26th, 2010 2

    Hey Bunky, Am I safe in assuming that the “Classic” scheme never made it to FCS? Thansk, -Bill

  • Steve Johnson
    8:08 am on March 26th, 2010 3

    If we’re talking vanilla AutoCAD then it should be there, but if you’re using one of the vertical variants in pretending-to-be-vanilla mode then you might be out of luck.

    I’ll confirm the vanilla situation as soon as I can.

  • Owen Wengerd
    12:05 pm on March 26th, 2010 4

    Vanilla FCS includes an “AutoCAD Classic” workspace.

  • Steve Johnson
    12:38 pm on March 26th, 2010 5

    Thanks for the confirmation, Owen. Bill, are you using an Inventor Suite version or something? Did you use Migration?

  • Wm.J.Townsend
    2:11 pm on March 26th, 2010 6

    Wrong classic guys… An earlier, umm, version of straight vanilla no nuthin’ 2011 included an image of Dark, Light, and Classic schemes for that idiotic UI overlay. I wasn’t in the beta programs (time and side-by-side installation restrictions) so I wasn’t able to snivel and whine firsthand.

    My preferred vertical application sleeps with the fishes – and I know far better that to ever migrate to multiple hours of pain.

    Speaking of suffering, bad week there Steve. Thanks, -Bill

  • Steve Johnson
    3:28 pm on March 26th, 2010 7

    Ah, I see now, not the Workspace, the Color Scheme. No, I never saw one with Classic in it, only Dark and Light. If there was a Classic in an early 2011 Beta, I never looked for it and never saw it (not that I’d be allowed to mention it if I had).

  • Luka
    7:17 pm on March 29th, 2010 8

    This is great post!

    Is it possible to change layout background color? I can’t find any settings under color tab :(
    I’d like to have it black as my layout paper color.

    http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/197/captureao.jpg

  • Steve Johnson
    7:26 pm on March 29th, 2010 9

    In the Options command’s Display tab, turn off Display paper background.

  • Luka
    7:32 pm on March 29th, 2010 10

    Well that works somehow, but then I loose the outer outlines of my paper background… which is not good

  • Steve Johnson
    8:27 pm on March 29th, 2010 11

    Yes, that’s true. Personally, I never found that particularly useful, and the printable area should still be displayed as a dashed line. It would be good to be able to change the beyond-paper background as an individual interface element rather than it being hardwired in as light grey, but I know of no way of changing it.

  • John Skeens
    2:07 am on April 18th, 2010 12

    This post has helped me more than you know. And the last bit about migration? I tried migration from 2010 product to the 2011 of ACA (architectual desktop version of autocad) DON’T DO IT !!! On my experience, it correctly imported all the pull down menus and toolbars, but the Toolpallette which has all your doors walls and what not, all the information there gone. I had to uninstall and reinstall without using migration to get them back to normal. I think it’s a better idea to manually import any menus and toolbars you might want to keep than to rely on the migration tool, that tool is just too imperfect and a nightmare if something goes wrong. But I sorta got off topic lol. Thanks again for this post it really helps.

  • Anthony Baker
    1:54 am on April 22nd, 2010 13

    Thank you so much for this page! It saved me tons of time! Especially the “showing toolbar bit” It had me scratching my head for a while!

  • Tail
    5:46 am on April 30th, 2010 14

    I’ve found that selecting objects when working in 3D is horribly frustrating now. If I’m in wireframe and trying to select an object “behind” another, it’ll select the one above because its face is covering it (as though it was opaque). So I can’t “click through” a wireframe face any more to select something beyond it. If that explanation made any sense, is there any way to toggle this behaviour?

  • Steve Johnson
    1:01 pm on May 10th, 2010 15

    Tail, have you tried turning Selection Cycling off? In the status bar at the bottom, it’s the rightmost toggle in the left-hand group.

  • Bogdan
    12:27 pm on July 2nd, 2010 16

    Tail,
    Let me know if you have found a solution to that? I am very frustrated with the same problem!!! AGGG!!! makes me want to just go to the good old 2000 version!!!! or better yet… R14 ;) those were the days…

  • Steve Johnson
    3:51 pm on July 2nd, 2010 17

    Bogdan, did you see my comment 15? Does that help?

  • Clarissa
    10:56 am on July 24th, 2010 18

    Hi Steve,
    I’ve recently installed the AutoCAD 2011 to my computer. Without really thinking, I allowed it to migrate my 2009 interface. Is there any way to undo that and completely return the AutoCAD 2011 interface? I’d like to do this to give the 2011 a try. Thanks

  • Steve Johnson
    8:46 pm on July 24th, 2010 19

    As that’s something I avoid doing, I’m not sure. What happens if you create a new profile in the Options command’s profile tab, make it current and if that doesn’t help, reset it?

  • Konstantin Kickenweitz
    7:32 pm on August 4th, 2010 20

    Thank you so much – you saved my day!

  • Marco Lackington
    8:22 am on August 12th, 2010 21

    For the first time I found all of the information needed to secure my interface in a comprehensive and easy way, great post!

  • Craig
    8:35 am on August 13th, 2010 22

    Thanks very much for this post. Big time saver. I am migrating from R14 to 2011 and this was a big help. Obviously, I like ‘classic’. Thanks.

  • Pieter
    3:41 pm on August 17th, 2010 23

    I have the same problem as “Tail”: “’ve found that selecting objects when working in 3D is horribly frustrating now. If I’m in wireframe and trying to select an object “behind” another, it’ll select the one above because its face is covering it (as though it was opaque). So I can’t “click through” a wireframe face any more to select something beyond it. If that explanation made any sense, is there any way to toggle this behaviour?”

    I turned of selection cycling but nothing changes.When I’m in 3D wireframe I can make a window selection from outside an object, but not when starting from the inside. For example, I want to select all my furniture in a room in one window, but because the floor is an 3Dobject, I cannot select in it.
    Thanx fot the help.

  • Steve Johnson
    9:36 am on August 23rd, 2010 24

    I think you’re all going to have to change your visual styles to 2D Wireframe while you’re working on your models. That appears to be the only one that allows you to select objects lying behind other objects, without having to resort to object cycling.

  • David Kozina
    6:52 am on August 26th, 2010 25

    I appreciate this article.

    We have been trying to finally get migrated from 2008 to 2011 this week.
    Customization-wise, it’s been pretty painless (at least we have not noticed any show-stoppers so far). Most of our custom routines are CL routines, which works well for our needs. I am trying to put the CL on my second monitor and use the dynamic input to see how that works. So far no major issues. Hope it continues that way.

    One thing that has proven quite irksome:
    2011 performance overall has been on the sticky/balky side – PARTICULARLY with respects to the hatching (…gimme back my cursor!) – so the tip above regarding setting HPDLGMODE to 1 seems to make things MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU! Now I just need to remember to type “HE” BEFORE I select my hatch – which keeps the ribbon’s hatch edit panel out of the way. I cannot see how a claimed 44% speed increase or whatever it was Autodesk was claiming is even remotely possible, but maybe our AutoCAD usage is just so utterly unsophisticated that it prevents us from ‘seeing the light’…

    Something else I’m trying out to see if it improves performance is setting ROLLOVERTIPS to 0 – personally I find them annoying, and redundant, since I keep my Properties Palette on all the time anyway.

    Your tip on changing the help to Local rather than on-line is also a good one, and may help keep me away from the psycho-ward.

    We are having a glitch with with Grip Edit stretching WIPEOUT frames (only one vertex stretches, even when multiple vertices are selected), which is apparently a ‘known issue’ and is hopefully being worked on. Quite frustrating, since we need to do this quite frequently. This apparently ‘broke’ in 2010.

    The heads-up polyline editing is awesome – but I’m not sure yet that it’s worth the price of admission. But the more I use it, the better I like it.

    Just some comments, FWTW

 

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